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The Good, The Bad, and The 4 F's [Strong language]

Rant Kazydi - Friday, August 24, 2007 - 21:47

I sat around one day, and thought about the whole "nice guy", "bad boy" thing. And it made me wonder...What do people think of when they hear those labels?

Well, I can only speak for myself, but this is what I came up with.

I think that some people see "nice" guys as lanky, whiny, effeminate, border-line gay, metro men who watch chick flicks and enjoy shopping. They are sensitive and emotional, scared of cockroaches, and know exactly what color scarf will go with that outfit.

I also think that some people see bad boys as manipulative jerks, who are drunk all the time, don't give a d***, and are still with you simply 'cause you're hot and you give up the goods, not that he hasn't already had the goods of many others.

But, in reality, nice guys and bad boys aren't really that much different.
Some could say that a bad boy is a nice guy that just likes to have fun, and some could say that a nice guy is just a bad boy that actually gives a d*** about you.

I figure that either way, it all comes down to preference and everyone has their preference. Everyone has their ideal image of a good guy/girl or bad guy/girl. So of course, what seems decent to one may be not so great to another.

Just know this:
I rarely saw my dad in life, but he raised me on the philosophy that with girls, you gotta find 'em, fool 'em, f*** 'em and forget 'em.

That is so whack. I don't play that. Now THAT is a bad guy quality.

Now, my mom raised me to be repectful towards women. THAT is a good guy quality.

But, note that my mom also told me not to let a girl run me over like a little b****, excuse my french. Now THAT is something that neither the good guys, nor the bad boys do.

Goodness, I think way too much.

I'll end with this:

Ladies, whoever your guy is, please don't get found, fooled, f*****, and forgotten.

You all deserve better than that. Yes, even the sluts.

Oh, and guys? Don't even try it.

Okay, I'm done.

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"OH NO! MY BELOVED PEASANT VILLAGE!" O_o

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The whole "nice guy" thing

Hairballed Kat; Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 03:43

The whole "nice guy" thing is sort of a myth. Not that pleasant, caring guys don't exist, but... you know who I mean. The guys who whine about how all their female friends they want to have sex with never want to go out with them even though they're so much *nicer* than the jerks the girls "always" go for. See this comic.

Anyway. People get screwed over in relationships. It's not as simple as "some guys will screw you and run and all other guys will respect you, and some girls are sluts who will cheat on you and break your heart and all others are perfect."

My infallible tip is that if the guy doesn't feel any compassion for animals (like, goes out of his way to hit birds and squirrels with his car, or doesn't pay your pets any respect) do not date him. He may be charming and sweet, but if he can't respect animals, he will not respect you. Ever.

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"Nice guys", to me, are the

shadowmistress; Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 21:28

"Nice guys", to me, are the ones who respect you. They're still guys, and they can still be jerks, but they know how to treat a girl, and they aren't sexist ( youi can't do that because you're a girl thing).
Now before you read my view on a bad guy, just know that my dad deserted my mom and i when i was two years old.
"Bad guys" are guys who look for girls that will give it all away without expecting anything in return. Guys like that are just jerks who want to "feel like a man" so they do as many chicks as they can, and IF one does get pregnant or something,...they run.
Pesonally, I'm dating a "nice guy". He listens to me, he actually WANTS to cuddle, he respects me, and his whole group of friends sees me as one of the guys. (most of my good friends are guys) now, although he is sensitive and all, he is most DEFINATELY still a guy adn he can still be a jerk, but he is the sweetest thing ever and I love him. so yeah. there's my opinion....woot.

*~beloved shellan~*

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TO me, nice guys are the

killijoy; Monday, August 27, 2007 - 18:53

TO me, nice guys are the ones who do everything for you with a smile. They might be classified as slightly needy, but in reality they just want to make sure that you - their princess - is in a perfect place, and having the time of her life. They don't really do much wrong in way of the drugs, or anything, but sometimes you can't tell how they're feeling. They're your knight in shining armor.

However, 'bad guys' are the ones that leave you to fend for yourself. As much as the nice guys doesn't tell you anything, the bad guy is ten times worse. He makes you want to cry until he does something really sweet, and you feel like he loves you forever! There's more to this guy that meets the eye; he might be a druggie as much as he might be an artist. He's your savior when it comes to your feeling blue, because he cares too - he just doesn't show it.

I sound like I wrote that for a magazine, I know, but I couldn't help it!!

.:suzu-chan/killijoy/Joeys Cupcake:.
.:"No time for goodbyes," he said, as he faded away. "It's hard to imagine, but one day you'll end up like me." Then he said, "If you want to stay alive, hold on for your life.":.

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It makes me so happy that i

shadowmistress; Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 00:36

It makes me so happy that i have my nice guy. he is indeed my knight in shining armor

*~beloved shellan~*

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I have the hugest crush on a

killijoy; Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 02:50

I have the hugest crush on a nice guy. And he really is a nice guy!

.:suzu-chan/killijoy/Joeys Cupcake:.
.:"No time for goodbyes," he said, as he faded away. "It's hard to imagine, but one day you'll end up like me." Then he said, "If you want to stay alive, hold on for your life.":.

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I like to think

xXRed13Xx; Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 14:12

I like to think I am a nice guy :)

And also shouldn't Kazydi edit her post to remove the swearing?

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*shrug* I just see the term

Joamette Gil; Monday, September 3, 2007 - 01:09

*shrug* I just see the term "nice guy" as the label girls give a male who's a decent human being when they're not romantically attracted to him in any way... the ones that want to be tactful about it anyway. I seldom hear the words "nice guy" if not followed by the word "but."

As for "bad boys," that's what girls call boys who stand out as rebellious or stoic. Sometimes a girl is bored and wants to join one of these guys on the "wild side." Sometimes a girl is on subconscious-maternal-overdrive and can't seem to resist guys with millions of flaws that they would love to be the ones to fix ("I know he's rough around the edges... but I can change him!"). Sometimes a girl's just a bit confused about her own self worth and settles for any jerk who'll look at her. Or she may be a masochist.

Bottom line: "nice guy" and "bad boy" are just a couple of the many, many labels we toss about each others' heads.

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Labels. I'm so sick of them.

shadowmistress; Tuesday, September 4, 2007 - 20:33

Labels. I'm so sick of them. If your going to use labels, make sure you know what they mean, or that the world has come to an agreement on what they really mean.

*~beloved shellan~*

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I don't think you can get a

Dungionman 3; Wednesday, September 5, 2007 - 14:25

I don't think you can get a male into a specific catigory. And also, fairy-tales like Repunzul and Cinderella have realy messed up small girls' heads about love untill they see a girl misstreated in any way, or experience being misstreated in any way. They have un-perpared us for the real world. Men are realy all the same, I guess, they are only slightly or more nicer or meaner. Sometimes, I guess, a guy will realy BE nice.

Sometimes girls will take a path that the guys take, looking for alot of guys. Not ALL girls are kind and forgiving and wusses. I am niether of those. I am no wuss, and I am no hoe! NEVER!

(QUOTE ALERT!): I'm a woman on the prowel, I stick up for my seeeelf!
City isn't like that I'm DANCIN'! DANCIN'!
( I'm a woman on the prowel, I stick up for my seeeelf!
City isn't like that I'm DANCIN'! DANCIN'!
Look out world! I'm an Independent giiiirl! Rollin around like a sumthin'-ade!
Look out world! I'm an INDEPENDAND GIIIRL! AN YOU CAN MEET ME DOWN AT THE AAAARCAADE!!!

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hi

gaararoxme; Monday, December 10, 2007 - 20:55

im soooooo fucking pissed. they blocked one of my favorite sites off the school computers and that was the only place i had friends except for the ocassional 2 in school i want to kill the school and everyone who likes it

"A soul needs a purpose to live... and so I concluded that my purpose was to kill everyone besides myself. I felt alive..." Gaara of the Desert

"If you want to kill me, despise me, hate me, and live in an unsightly way... Run, and cling to life, and then some day, when you have the same eyes as I do, come before me." Itachi Uchiha.

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im sooooooo bored i cant

gaararoxme; Monday, December 10, 2007 - 21:02

im sooooooo bored i cant stand it

"A soul needs a purpose to live... and so I concluded that my purpose was to kill everyone besides myself. I felt alive..." Gaara of the Desert

"If you want to kill me, despise me, hate me, and live in an unsightly way... Run, and cling to life, and then some day, when you have the same eyes as I do, come before me." Itachi Uchiha.

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Hi! Moderator Here with Some Tips!

Joamette Gil; Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 00:08

Wow.

You just broke 3 of Manga Punks 4 very simple rules, gaararoxme:

1) No swearing.

2) Type in English.

3) Stay on topic.

Sometimes sites get blocked off of school computers because of an excessive presence of foul language within the site's content. I'm sorry that your favorite sites were banned; please don't get this one banned, too.

The word "I" is always capitalized. It's okay if your finger slips off the Shift key too early from time to time, but you obviously weren't even trying.

This conversation thread is about social labels and/or boys. Please stay on topic. If you don't want to talk about either of those things, you are always welcome to begin a new conversation thread about whatever you'd like.

Now, this is just me: I think it'd be advisable to go easy on the "killing people" talk.

That being said, you're welcome to our site so long as you show the proper respect for our community. =)

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I don't like the word sl** (16+, or else don't complain)

Plant; Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 03:04

I reckon as long as a girl's having fun no one should judge her. I hate the whole stigma of girls who like "sax", a few of my female friends admit that they "double-click the mouse" and when they tell other girls they usually get "ewwww"'s and "thats gross" but those other girls reckon its their duty to put a "lollipop" in their mouth after X number of weeks dating, I really don't like it.
Also to the "nice guy" thing, I'm a nice guy, its one of the two things I can attract girls with (the other is that I do housework ha ha ha). I'm not whiny, I have no clue about clothes (I wear what ever is cleanest), I AM sensitive but it's said I show as much emotion as a dead fish.
Get this, I even hold doors open for women, I'm the only guy I know who does.

I hope this is better

I have a tendency to wear my mind on my sleeve, I have a history of losing my shirt...

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i wont get this one blocked

gaararoxme; Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 21:07

i wont get this one blocked cuz i wont and i do type in english

"A soul needs a purpose to live... and so I concluded that my purpose was to kill everyone besides myself. I felt alive..." Gaara of the Desert

"If you want to kill me, despise me, hate me, and live in an unsightly way... Run, and cling to life, and then some day, when you have the same eyes as I do, come before me." Itachi Uchiha.

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i wont get this one blocked

gaararoxme; Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 21:07

i wont get this one blocked cuz i wont and i do type in english

"A soul needs a purpose to live... and so I concluded that my purpose was to kill everyone besides myself. I felt alive..." Gaara of the Desert

"If you want to kill me, despise me, hate me, and live in an unsightly way... Run, and cling to life, and then some day, when you have the same eyes as I do, come before me." Itachi Uchiha.

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man im sooo bored i cant

gaararoxme; Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 21:16

man im sooo bored i cant even get a boyfriend.

"A soul needs a purpose to live... and so I concluded that my purpose was to kill everyone besides myself. I felt alive..." Gaara of the Desert

"If you want to kill me, despise me, hate me, and live in an unsightly way... Run, and cling to life, and then some day, when you have the same eyes as I do, come before me." Itachi Uchiha.

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Plant: I agree with most

Joamette Gil; Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 21:36

Plant: I agree with most everything you just said, but could you please alter the language a bit? "Sl*t" is profane, first of all, and the other words describing s/ex (while they are not profane) may get the site blocked as "pr0n;" get me?

Gaara: Proper English, please.

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I was expressing my dislike of the word

Plant; Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 23:18

I'll * out the middle of the s**t but if I put in a different word it'll defeat the purpose of the post. I'll do what I can about the other stuff.

I have a tendency to wear my mind on my sleeve, I have a history of losing my shirt...

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It's okay, I wasn't saying

Joamette Gil; Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 23:47

It's okay, I wasn't saying you had to remove the word. Just censoring it is fine. Thank you.

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i do use proper english its

gaararoxme; Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 13:31

i do use proper english its just that i dont want to!!!!! so ha!!!! grrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!11 im bored!!!!

"A soul needs a purpose to live... and so I concluded that my purpose was to kill everyone besides myself. I felt alive..." Gaara of the Desert

"If you want to kill me, despise me, hate me, and live in an unsightly way... Run, and cling to life, and then some day, when you have the same eyes as I do, come before me." Itachi Uchiha.

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this is a poem i wrote

gaararoxme; Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 14:04

Death
By: Cassie Patzer

I smell burning flesh
The flesh of the innocent people
I see fires everywhere
The fire that burns
All the innocent people

I hear screaming
Is it my own?
No, it’s the screaming of others
Their screaming is unbearable
I can’t stand to be here any more

I feel pain all over my body
I can’t stand the pain
Will it ever end?
I want the pain to STOP!!!

What is this that they’re feeding us?
Is it edible? Or is it poison?
Should I eat it?
I’m so hungry I could eat anything
I taste the food and throw it down

Everything here is like death
No, death is better than this place
I want to get away
I want to die
Someone get me out of here

I see bodies everywhere
I wonder if they’re my parents
My brothers or maybe sisters
I want to see them so bad
To know they are alive

It’s cold
Oh so cold
Am I dying?
I feel someone shake me
Trying to keep me alive

I’m so weak
I can barely stand
I want to throw myself away
To die the way I want
To see my parents again

Will I be in the same place as them?
Will I ever see them again
I hope so
No, I wish to see them again
My brother died

May he be free
In this world he was never free
When we all die we all have a chance
A chance to be free
A chance to see the world

Today I will die
Dying seems like a treat
I don’t care how I die
Just as long as I do
Let it be swift and painless

I hear people screaming bloody murder
I think they are being tortured
Will it ever happen to me?
I hope it doesn’t
Are my sisters apart of that pain?

Will any of us survive?
Many of my friends have died
They were so innocent
They didn’t deserve it
No one deserves it

I’m sick of my life
I’ve been reunited with my sisters
They are very sick
I had to drag my sisters outside
I’m crying for my sisters

I’m out
I’m free
I get to live the way I want

"A soul needs a purpose to live... and so I concluded that my purpose was to kill everyone besides myself. I felt alive..." Gaara of the Desert

"If you want to kill me, despise me, hate me, and live in an unsightly way... Run, and cling to life, and then some day, when you have the same eyes as I do, come before me." Itachi Uchiha.

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Stay on topic

Plant; Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 15:27

And put things like poems in your blog, and don't post the same thing in every active conversation ( I can't spell discusson;) )

I have a tendency to wear my mind on my sleeve, I have a history of losing my shirt...

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Oh

Plant; Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 15:28

You did post it in your blog (also) though my point still remains valid.

I have a tendency to wear my mind on my sleeve, I have a history of losing my shirt...

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