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Rant killijoy - Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 16:47

OK, hi yall's, it's time for another one of Killi's famous rants.

I have issues (yet again) with all these flirters and PDAers in my school.

Let's start with the flirting: What the heck is the difference between flirting and being friendly? Don't tell me "Oh, it's a pose," "Oh, it's the way you look at each other," "Oh, it's that secretive little smirk." None of the guys I have flirted with have done any of those things, yet my friends all come up to me and are like, "Did you take lessons? You are high-quality flirt-stuff!" I kid you not. I don't know what the heck I am doing, but it is apparently flirting. In my mind, it is simply a warm smile followed up with a friendly question.

Is that all flirting is? If so, then why do we place flirting on so high a pedestal? Any one can do it. I mean, HELLO! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROAST JAVA!

Don't get me started on PDAs. It might give other people the warm fuzzies. However, I don't need to be late to class because all you seniors decided that right in front of my locker is high-prime make-out spot. So I stand there for three minutes, anxiously worrying that I'm going to be late, when you look up from all that affection, smile like you're saying "Loser" and say, "Sorry; is this your locker?" No, it's not my locker any more. After you did such dirty things in front of it!

Yes, so someone explain to me: What the heck is flirting? Why the heck is it so placed on a pedestal? AND WHY MUST YOU MAKE OUT IN FRONT OF AN IMPRESSIONABLE FRESHMAN AND HER LOCKER?!?!?

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By the by

killijoy; Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 17:02

I don't mean to sound like I don't believe in love - I do. It just gets to me, all this flirting and PDAs.

I sound like a cynical old man. -.-

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xXRed13Xx; Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 18:17

First of all I don't think flirting is put up on a pedestal, I'm not sure how old you are but I think once you get to a certain age (depending to an extent the kind of people you hang around with) everyone flirts with practically everyone else. Flirting isn't something that can be explained easily either, it's just flirting... that's what it is. It's like adding that little bit of sexual air to a conversation.

And as for PDAs, in england a PDA is a Blackberry, a palm top computer so no idea what your on about. Making out is not what I would call "dirty things" and if someone is in front of your locker you say excuse me can I get to my locker please. If they look at you with a "loser" expression on their face then just ignore them and push your way into your locker, they don't know you properly, they have no idea what you are like so just ignore them.

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.. PPL ALWAYS SAY I FLIRT TO

iloverevenge153; Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 19:53

.. PPL ALWAYS SAY I FLIRT TO I DONT EVEN KNOW IM DOING IT..

IM LIKE WTF?!?!

ABOUT THE MAKINGOUT THING I WOULDNT KNOW..

BUT THEN AGAIN IM IN 7TH GRADE..

Dattebayo

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Yes

killijoy; Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 21:24

Well, in a little Warwick High School flirting is a big deal for everyone. I'm told you don't grow up until you get into college her in RI. *wink*

And for those who don't know, a PDA here is also known as "Public Display of Affection".

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Ah right

xXRed13Xx; Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 00:30

Ok thanks for clarifying that, I think public affection is very important in a relationship, if you can't be open about your relationship then it's like your ashamed of it, if I liked a girl but she didn't like public affection I would either try and persuade her otherwise or just have to forget about her.

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at my school hugging is a

iloverevenge153; Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 01:34

at my school hugging is a pda

im like wtf?!?!?!?

Dattebayo

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I understand your point.

killijoy; Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 01:35

Really I do. BUT MY LOCKER?!? The building is full of senior lockers! Just because my locker is conveniant.... That and PDAs are not allowed in my school - you get detention if you do it. Yeah, we're strict and proud.

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Man...schools need to chill

Joamette Gil; Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 02:58

Man...schools need to chill out with that. People at my old high school would have sex in plain sight on hallway stairwells. They have nothing to complain about until they come face to face with something like that.

Here's Joey's advice: say excuse me when you see those fools occuping your locker space. If they ignore you, push them the hell out the way. Diplomacy first, war second; but always be assertive. You can't allow people to treat you like you don't matter.

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StephanieNicole; Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 04:23

WAR SHOULD BE FIRST..

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killijoy; Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 13:55

Evil seniors!

Yes. You are right, Joey. I should be assertive. I am, normally. Just not in front of the most popular people in school. But you are right - being assertive is a good thing.

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o.O o.O o.O Joey...the had

Caramel; Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 14:38

o.O o.O o.O

Joey...the had sex on a staircase?! x_*

THAT'S JUST WRONG.

I'm not all that comfortable with PDAs either. It's like they're rubbing your face in it, saying "YOU DON'T HAVE A BOYFRIEND TO MAKEOUT WITH AND I DO!!"

I don't place hugging as a PDA. A kiss on a cheek, not yet, but making out, yes.

But people should do what they want to do.

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I know what you mean. >_<

Sharky; Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 20:20

I know what you mean. >_< I think flirting, in high school, is anything someone wants it to be. If someone wants to believe someone else is flirting, they'll just pick out something normal (like smiling) and claim it's proof of flirting, even though it's really just being friendly. Immature, that's what it is.

(What flirting really is, I guess, is, um, doing things you don't do unless you really like someone to show you that you're interested in someone. My women's magazines say it's making a lot of eye contact, touching hands or thighs, etc. Overrated, IMO.)

PDA annoys me more because it gets in the way than because it's gross. When people hold hands, they take up twice the room and there's no way to get around them, and they walk soooooooooo slow! Walking through a busy hallway =/= stroll on the beach.

Glaring at the offenders works in the face of both accusations of flirting and overly amorous couples. I suggest you try it.


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Killijoy wrote:Just not in

Joamette Gil; Monday, September 18, 2006 - 01:15

Killijoy wrote:
Just not in front of the most popular people in school.

Popularity, schmopularity. They're just people like you and I. Actually, Killi, you're the first real person I've ever met who actually cares about that. You need to treat people the way they deserve to be treated--the way they treat you--regardless of how many people think they're cool.

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Anime Punk Joey

Caramel; Monday, September 18, 2006 - 02:05

Anime Punk Joey wrote:
Actually, Killi, you're the first real person I've ever met who actually cares about that.

*gasp*

I don't believe it!! Almost all my friends care about popularity. Well, I know I don't. Sometimes, I wonder if I hang out with them because I pity them...but that's so mean!!

This one girl, she only has one friend: me. That's...sad. I keep telling her the only way to get more friends is to be herself and not care what other thinks. She tried so hard to look like she wasn't caring what other thinks, she ended up caring more. Then, she got all clingy to me. Like Superglue or whatever that's sticky.

Sad.

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Caramel wrote:Almost all my

Joamette Gil; Monday, September 18, 2006 - 02:39

Caramel wrote:
Almost all my friends care about popularity.

Really? I always thought that was the stuff of Disney Channel shows and angsty teen novels. The only way someone becomes "popular" down here is if they are nice to everyone and everyone likes them--none of this "Oh no! It's the Populars!" business. In middle school, I was best friends with the most popular girl in school: she was an anime geek with crazy hair who hung out with the computer nerds, really friendly. I think that's how "popularity" should work: people being well-liked for being themselves, not for being the baddest or richest or hottest or what-have-you.

And certainly not for being a pushy senior.

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Up here

killijoy; Monday, September 18, 2006 - 03:17

...whole different story. Especially in public high school. It's who wears thongs, who dresses as much like a ***** as they can get away with, who dates Mr. McJock. You're right, people with more character should be popular - that's how popularity should run. It just doesn't up here.

Sadly, I act like myself. It's unacceptable in my school's cliques, and I find that even sadder.

Sadder...is that a word?

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Yes, it's a word. =)

Joamette Gil; Monday, September 18, 2006 - 03:21

Yes, it's a word. =)

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Populatirty is stupid at my

iloverevenge153; Monday, September 18, 2006 - 12:52

Populatirty is stupid at my school its the abercrombie ,hollister and american eagle wearing preps that have popular boyfriends are super skinny and wear make up caked on about an inch thick.But they cant wear nothing but abercrombie or hollister or a. eagle.

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Re: Populatirty is stupid at my

CatChewer; Monday, September 18, 2006 - 17:52

iloverevenge153 wrote:
Populatirty is stupid at my school its the abercrombie ,hollister and american eagle wearing preps that have popular boyfriends are super skinny and wear make up caked on about an inch thick.But they cant wear nothing but abercrombie or hollister or a. eagle.

Ok, dude, I get a headache reading your posts. I've read some other forums where you've posted, and you either abuse the caps lock key, or completely ignore it.

(Sorry for interrupting the post...)

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Spaces come before the

Caramel; Monday, September 18, 2006 - 20:30

Spaces come before the comma, not after. And then there's the period. *whisper*use it*whisper*

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I agree. Ravenge and I have

Look Its Nichole; Monday, September 18, 2006 - 20:35

I agree.

Ravenge and I have talked about this before.

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Yes

killijoy; Monday, September 18, 2006 - 20:41

"The proper techniques make for the proper presentation." Just one of my many mottoes.

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Sorry, its kinda hard for me

iloverevenge153; Monday, September 18, 2006 - 21:31

Sorry, its kinda hard for me to remeber.

p.s. how do you spel remeber

Dattebayo

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Remember.

Look Its Nichole; Monday, September 18, 2006 - 21:53

Remember.

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Phonetics

killijoy; Monday, September 18, 2006 - 22:12

Everyone learns someway, why don't you try sounding out the words? You may get them wrong sometimes, but at least it shows you are putting in effort. Also, Microsoft Word is a wonderful tool.

Use them.

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Getting back to the subject...

quamp; Monday, September 18, 2006 - 23:02

This really isn't anything new. People were doing PDAs (public displays of affection to non-Americans)about the same time schools came into existence. It's only now that it's becoming more overt; it's changing from merely looking at each other to kissing and even groping. When I was in school (long love time ago,) these things were not uncommon either. Well, if you're annoyed by it, just ignore it.

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-.-

killijoy; Monday, September 18, 2006 - 23:46

You try attempting to get into my locker. I swear, I need to put Police at Work fences up around it or something. My friends are saying the same thing. Why are the seniors so evilly in love? WHY?!?

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Caramel wrote:Spaces come

Joamette Gil; Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 11:54

Caramel wrote:
Spaces come before the comma, not after.

You mean spaces come after the coma, not before. ;)

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Godamit

xXRed13Xx; Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 12:23

Damnit Joey I wanted to do that, you beat me to everything ^^

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I'm going to beat you to

Joamette Gil; Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 12:27

I'm going to beat you to this too:

God damnit. Not "godamit." ;p

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Yeh I know

xXRed13Xx; Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 20:09

Yeh well I knew that smarty pants it was just a typo :) as you can see in my actual post I spelt damnit perfectly well.

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I know. I was just messing

Joamette Gil; Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 00:06

I know. I was just messing with you. ;p

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You people must love

StephanieNicole; Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 00:26

You people must love spelling test.

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Popularity isn't really a

Hairballed Kat; Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 00:52

Popularity isn't really a big deal at my school. There's a circle of people who are what I guess you would call "popular," because they wear expensive clothes and the girls spend a lot of time making themselves look pretty, and the guys are on the more "physical" sports teams like football and basketball and whatnot, and they all have dirt bikes and ripped abs and all that jazz.

But it's not like people covet their status, and I think they're really only popular among themselves. They're just called popular for lack of a better word. Nobody I know actually says "gee, I wish I was like that snobby girl with the over-bleached hair and the stupid, hunky boyfriend." Everyone who's not in the so-called elite circle just gets along without them, which is fine because it's a fun mishmash of arty-geeky-junky-punky types and everyone in between.

Back to the topic of PDA -- if I were you, I'd say something really rude like "Why don't you finger each other somewhere else?" in order to get to my locker, but maybe that's just me. I admit that people accuse me and the LHAM of PDA, but we never kiss on the mouth in school... that would be weird... the most I do is hug him and bury my face in his neck when I'm in a bad mood and need some skin sympathy.

Flirting is one of those yoda things -- do or do not do, there is no try. It either just happens as you talk or it doesn't. There isn't really a way to describe it.

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Rripped Abs FTW!!!

xXRed13Xx; Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 10:23

Off topic :) sorry but I am just reminiscing, I used to have my lovely ripped abs (largely because I'm quite skinny) but since leaving school I haven't exersiced and they are starting to fade *sniff*.

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:P lol i dont think any one

iloverevenge153; Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 12:03

:P lol

i dont think any one at my school has abs.
But i wouldnt know.
I hate the so called "populars"

Except for courtlyn wich is like very cool and so awsome
But other than that i hate them.
So i always cut them at lunch :D
with all of my "goth friends"

its so funny

Dattebayo

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No way

xXRed13Xx; Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 19:05

No way can NO ONE in your school have a decent set of abs you obviously just haven't been looking up enough boys tops, so many boys now are obsessed with sit-ups and fitness and stuff, plus all the guys in American movies have proper six packs :D

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I have not seen one boy at

Look Its Nichole; Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 20:18

I have not seen one boy at my school with a six pack...but I haven't really been looking. ;)

And what do you meant, Revenge? You "cut them"?

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Really

xXRed13Xx; Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 22:38

Really... I find that surprising, but ah well it means I'm even more special, more unique and more amazing than I already thought, GO ME!!!

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i get in front of them @

iloverevenge153; Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 01:36

i get in front of them @ lunch lines like i monkey cut my friends that are in front of them I basiclly just waltz up and get right in front of them and they are like " ummm NO!" soooo

Its fun

Dattebayo

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Ooooh

xXRed13Xx; Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 15:11

Ooooh mass chat speak there :) someone is going to get a severe talking to.

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:/ Yall are obssessed with

iloverevenge153; Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 22:23

:/

Yall are obssessed with grammer.
Yall are like the people on my bus.
Except yall are awsomer. They get mad if i say DAMN. so i cuss as much as i want when im there.

Dattebayo

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Just try to tone down the

Look Its Nichole; Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 22:46

Just try to tone down the chatspeak.

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Whoops! Yes, I mean after.

Caramel; Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 23:01

Whoops! Yes, I mean after. And you don't really see six packs in real life...Who are those AbLounge commercials think they're kidding?!!

WELLLLL, anywho, you can't really do a thing to them...They just look at you, spat and hiss, and go back to their kissing. People have such bad attitudes these days. You see, my hair is sorta long, and when I turn around fast, it whirls around. This girl behind me says "Excuse ME" and doesn't really mean it. I tell her there is plenty of space to walk and she ignores me and said that my hair went over her face. Well, of course I didn't say sorry. I had enough with these people. I know I say sorry too much, and also when I don't really need to. I'm not really sorry, either. Why make myself look like a liar?

People do that. They'd say "Well, I'm sor-ry!!!" and don't mean it-at all. Why bother...

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Sure you do!!!

xXRed13Xx; Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 23:27

Sure you see them in "real life" I know plenty of people who have them, me being one of them, although it has become a bit pathetic and I can't work out for the life of my how to put an image in a post so I've put it as sig' for the moment :)

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If people were making out in

iloverevenge153; Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 23:29

If people were making out in front of my locker i would just move them like i own the damn place. Or i would spit near them :D gets preps away from me all the time

Dattebayo

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Oh. My. God. Reveng is not

StephanieNicole; Friday, September 22, 2006 - 00:27

Oh. My. God. Reveng is not lying. She spit at one of my mega-preppy friends because they took over "The goth tabel".

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Your abs are your new siggy,

Joamette Gil; Friday, September 22, 2006 - 00:29

Your abs are your new siggy, eh Red? ;p

As for abs, I know plenty of guys who have abs. It's not that rare.

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Oh yeah i remember

iloverevenge153; Friday, September 22, 2006 - 02:03

Oh yeah i remember that.
Haha fun times.
Ah stupid preps

Dattebayo

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Abs

CatChewer; Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 12:31

My brother has abs without trying. He has the fastest metabolism ever. He can eat a family size chocolate bar just before dinner and still manage two big helpings...

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