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Rachel the Great - Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 15:38

Some hail shoujo manga as a liberating front in girls' and women's comics, but is this invasion a boon for young women... or a curse?

Traditionally, American comics have exploited female characters as spandex shrink-wrapped T and A to be posed for cheesecake wherever possible, their breasts thrust out proudly to accentuate a tiny, wasp-like waist. Anyone who remembers the good old X-Men of the '90s or the original Catwoman series (as drawn by Jim Balent) knows whereof I speak. Even the super-intelligent, super-strong Fairchild of my favorite series Gen13 had her personality undermined by her bouncy, orb-like breasts and impossible anatomy. (J. Scott Campbell, who drew Gen13 for the earlier part of the series's run, later went on to draw Danger Girl. His anatomical repertoire had by then expanded to include actual hips, so we can only assume that between series he actually got laid or managed to familiarize himself with the female body in some other fashion.)

Japanese comics, on the other hand, usually feature girls and women with (comparably) more realistic bodies. They have thoughts and emotions and powers and problems. They are written and drawn by women, rather than being the female handpuppets of a male creator. But, does this make them feminist role models for young women?

Remember that Japan is still considered "sexually backward" by most Western cultures (who are still sexually backward in their own ways, mind you). Most female Japanese college students drop out when they find a husband at school. In comics, heroines often aspire not to succeed at their dreams but rather to marry the man of their dreams. Many shoujo manga series end with a wedding.

Japanese comics actually portray women as weaker beings. For instance, X-Men's Rogue has always kicked butt, even in her porn-worthy costume. Sailor Moon, while being in a girls-only team and starring in her own series marketed almost exclusively to girls, always needs Tuxedo Mask to tell her when to use her powers. She has to be told by some guy who has very little powers of his own (he can throw a rose and make a speech)? She spins around naked for five minutes in each episode of the cartoon series to boot! (Although, here it must be noted that the Japanese, along with the British, do not have the same kind of stigma on nudity that Americans do.) How is a woman kicking butt in a porn-worthy costume worse than a girl in a miniskirt being told by a man to kick butt?

In Japanese comics, strong women are usually stereotyped as "butch" or "executive sharks." Pretty girls are often ditzy and helpless, relying on the support of their stronger friends or male love interests to buoy them through life. They get poor grades and often fail to study. They do not dream of becoming doctors or starting their own store or just making it on their own. They just want to be happy, and that happiness usually arrives in the form of a love interest.

Take Fruits Basket, one of the better shoujo manga out there. The female protagonist is, while cloyingly sweet and devoted, pretty helpless and dependent on the males and stronger females around her. She gets poor grades just like Sailor Moon and the protagonist of Fushigi Yugi, and perhaps worst of all, she tailors her interests to match those of the two most important boys in her life (something I see many young American women doing, which seems to stunt their development as actual people).

In Mars, the female protagonist, a victim of sexual abuse, relies on her (oddly) dependable (and fortunately rich) boyfriend to rescue her from her horrible family life. Oh, sure, she hits her abuser, but ultimately its her boyfriend who does the heavy fighting. And, let's not get into the appalling circumstances under which she first sleeps with her boyfriend. She does have a dream to go to art school, but the only way for it to come true is by marrying her (rich) boyfriend and being accepted into his family.

Is this the kind of message we want young, female comic readers to receive? "It's okay if you're not that good in school. Just get married as soon as you get out of high school and everything will be fine. Your man will take care of you." How often that is not the case in the harsh reality of America's "The Young and the Hopeless." This kind of propaganda is reminiscent of the Barbie Scare of the '80s, when mothers and fathers woke up to the fact that Barbie dolls were feeding their daughters such ideals as "Shopping is fun," and "Math is hard." Do we really want a country whose women are still stuck in forties-housewife-mode influencing our already troubled young women of tomorrow?

I think that the problem is that American comics do not provide the emotional content girls crave. That is why we love Japanese comics. Neither really provides a decent role model, and Japanese comics tend to reinforce sexist, negative stereotypes of girls and women, but at least the characters are three dimensional.

We cannot change the ideals of another country, especially when our own country is in a state of female identity crisis and celebration of raunch culture. We cannot stop girls from reading shoujo manga, nor should we. Japanese comics offer us the rare chance to view another culture different from our own. But, if we want girls to get "the right message," we have to send it to them ourselves. We have to make our own comics. We have to be the change we want to see in American comics and perhaps even in American culture.

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God damn.

Rachel the Great; Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 23:48

I post a lengthy disertation like this and I don't hear one peep of disent? One chuckle of agreement or argument? Discuss! Discuss!

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Hm.

Hairballed Kat; Monday, February 20, 2006 - 01:07

Although I don't read shojo manga like that (I spend my money on precious homosexual shojo alone), I absolutely agree with you, Rachel. Mainstream comics almost always send a message that is either 1) women must look perfect to get anyone to pay attention to them, and only then will their vast intelligence and incredible butt-kicking be of any use to anyone or 2) women don't have to be smart or talented or strong as long as there's a man to look out for her.

But I could point out that in American superhero comics almost everyone has an idealized form. While the guys have more leeway in the sense that they don't have to be drop-dead sexy, most superheros will look in unrealistically top condition. Not that there isn't a wet dream factor, and D-Cups are never really essential to fighting (except maybe in an Austin Powers movie -- machine gun jublies!!), but one can't really expect a perfectly realistic female figure in a comic like X-Men.

I'm going to scurry over to the forums now so we can make a list of comics (American and Japanese!) that have strong, three-dimensional and not-necessarily-barbie-figured female main characters!

Pull down the future with the one you love.
~Television.

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Eh.

Joamette Gil; Monday, February 20, 2006 - 03:32

I decided not to say anything once I was done reading. Half-way through the article, my mind was saying, "Well, I enjoy those comics anyway...and reading them doesn't make me want to find me a man and get hitched." I think those ideals only appeal to girls that already held them to begin with. Sort of how one kid can play Grand Theft Auto and grow up to be a fine, upstanding citizen while the other plays it and goes and joins a gang and goes homocidal maniac on all who cross his path--it depends on the individual.

Cruddy ideals in the media are sad, but here's what's sadder: the people are only fed what they want to eat.

My peeve is the fact that many great artists forsake the influencing power of the media (be it movies, TV, comics, or what have you) and waste valuable paper advocating the existing culture rather than using their gifts to change the mindsets of the masses positively.

Progressive brainwashing, if you will.

As far as anatomy goes, her breasts can be bigger than Rosie O'Donnel's head for all I care. I'm secure enough in my own anatomy to focus on the actual story content (a crappy story, to me, is the greatest insult). That in itself could open up a whole rant on Ms. Barbie's behalf: is she responsible for young girl's mixed up priorities, or is she simply shedding light on the low self-esteem already present in today's young woman?


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Actually, this "sleeping

Rachel the Great; Monday, February 20, 2006 - 13:32

Actually, this "sleeping beauty myth" is pervasive in all American media as well. When was the last time you saw a movie about a girl rescuing herself or another girl (that wasn't soft-porn masquerading as light entertainment)?

It's not just about breasts. It's about Japanese comics portraying girls as essentially benign creatures concerned solely with their relationships to men. Is this a healthy thing to expose young women to? Do we really need more of this? As older females, we can slow down and realize that we are essentially eating chauvinist fodder, but little kids won't see it that way.

Remember in the 80's when everyone got up in arms that on TV men were always shown explaining things to women. Women were rarely doctors or scientists explaining things to men. And, in schools, boys were called upon to answer questions more often than girls. Our society had been programmed from a young age to think that girls were poor at math and basically less smart than boys. Women put pressure on teachers and the media, and things changed, and now girls are outranking boys in school.

I worry that the proliferation of Japanese media in our culture may cost us these small victories, especially when it comes to impressionable young minds. Yes, we should start a grassroots media movement, but kids already love anime, and what TV executive wants to rock that boat? If anime isn't just a fad, then we could see a serious regression in female identity here. We've fought so hard for what little we have, and there are still girls wearing "porn star" shirts, modifying their looks, intelligence and behavior not to get ahead in life or to suit herself, but to appeal to males.

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A different view...

David Doub; Monday, February 20, 2006 - 22:15

Actually right now Japan is having an issue where it will be soon too top heavy with old people. This is because the young people are going to the cities to find careers (and money) and traditionally it was the woman's role to take care of the elderly parents. The woman can no longer take care of the elderly parents because she has a job of her own. Also, since more women are focusing of their career they're either holding off on having children or just don't plan too. I bring this up because the traditional Japanese view of the woman being the homemaker is becoming a thing of the past due to the economic situation of Japan. The fact that manga still reflects this is either because it's behind the times or it's a bit of wish fulfillment for better times.

Also I don't think the young American woman knows exactly what they want. The recently popularity of Yaoi and Shonen-Ai is mostly be driven by young girls. Considering they're at an age when they're starting to learn and understand about their sexuality and sex in general, I don't see how the relationships of gay men can really help them with that situation. Is this a way to learn more about men with a "safety barrier" involved (by them being gay and therefore no threat to a woman)?

And also remember that American comics have tried to be progressive when it involves women from very early on. Wonder Woman is very much a female Icon and has influenced numerous a young girl's life (to varying degrees). And this character was done over 50 plus years ago. Is Wonder Woman less effective now than she used to be? Perhaps, but that may be more to do with the lack of understand and focus the current American Comicbook industry has toward women readers. The manga boom has caught it by surprise, but they have been attempts made to understand (ex DC Comic's manga line and their upcoming Women orientated line).

And I'd like to say for the record, I liked the old Catwoman comics, not because of Jim Balent's art but because the character was a selfish person who was only interested mainly in personal success. She wasn't a cold or heartless person, she was just more pragmatic about things. Mind you they've went and ruined her by having her be come a "hero" and now after Infinite Crisis, she'll be pregnant.

And my personal favorite character currently in comics is Batgirl, so of course they're ending their book. That was a great story about character growth that didn't become stereotypical like a girl learning she likes to shop, or how to catch a man.


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Re: A different view...

Rachel the Great; Monday, February 20, 2006 - 22:47

David Doub wrote:
The fact that manga still reflects this is either because it's behind the times or it's a bit of wish fulfillment for better times.

Like Betty and Veronica.

David Doub wrote:
I don't think the young American woman knows exactly what they want.

Tis true that American women are wrestling with a post-feminist world where women fall into one of two categories (often of their own volition): The "girly-girl" or "one of the boys". For more info, check out Female Chauvinist Pigs. It will open your eyes to how far women have come... and how easily we are giving up and slumping back into our old habits without knowing. It's not just a girl book.

David Doub wrote:

And also remember that American comics have tried to be progressive when it involves women from very early on. Wonder Woman is very much a female Icon and has influenced numerous a young girl's life (to varying degrees). And this character was done over 50 plus years ago.

Yes, and she was created by an s&m fetishist. (When you bind her, she loses her powers, am I right?) She may have come to mean different things, but she definitely came from a different place. Her costume still reflects that ;)

David Doub wrote:
And I'd like to say for the record, I liked the old Catwoman comics...

Actually, I loved them art and all. Catwoman was one of the comics I was raised on. The old Catwoman was so... well, she was a cat. The new versions are so... mooshy? Human? Not criminal enough? Her tits were impossibly large, but so were Pamela Anderson's. If we want to get rid of negative imagery in America, the battle isn't limited to comics. It's on all sides. Like Joey said, the best thing to do is take responsibility as creators (and readers!) and try not to give in to the lure of stereotypes.

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faith

GothicApple; Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 00:45

As always..i have little to say without sounding like I'm ranting.
Which, no offense all of this sounds like (but that's the point)
hehe..
I'll admit that the japanese comics have influenced me in more than one way. All my heroines are small, young, skinny lil things, but w/ the wisdom of a 60 year old.
All have a dominate male figure in their lives..
but they stand as *supporting role* not someone who gives them orders.

(oh..and a side note for Sailor Moon--there are huge differences between the manga and anime--Tuxedo Mask actually had powers in the manga--the anime was made by men, and the manga by a women--ofcourse the anime is gonna be way different--it's done by a male view)

anways..
I discovered anime first then manga, which is mostly is all shojo manga--and though it has inspired me, it has not affected my ability to stand on my own two feet..nor my characters..hehe.

Have a lil faith in our girls and women.

okay..i'm sure that sounded a lot better in my head.

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Remember that in the comics

Rachel the Great; Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 00:59

Remember that in the comics Usagi was still bad at school and even more fixated on a boyfriend. Of course, most girls will have easier access to the cartoons than to the comics.

I am getting tired of girl-oriented manga and anime like Sailor Moon and Tokyo Mew Mew always having a boy-crazy ditz at the helm but being hailed by media pundits as a revolution in girls' programming. Sure, it's girls kicking butt. But, so is Rogue in X-men. So is Catwoman (especially from the old Batman animated series--she rocked). So are the Power Puff Girls. Is Japan really doing anything differently? In terms of emotional content, yes. In terms of positive-female role models, I have my doubts.

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hehe..this can be a debate

GothicApple; Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 06:19

hehe..this can be a debate that can go on and on..
so, lets have had it..

Believe it or not..most girls at a young age like say 14 (which sailor moon is through most of the series) are generally fixated on boys..or have you forgotten? hehe..
So you feed them stuff they can relate to.
Not all young girls are school go getters and happy being single--shojo plays on the fantasy--and relateing to the not so perfect heroine.

granted it may be a little backwards and it's at that girls age that's the best time to hit em with the awesome female role models..
but as much as I hate to admit it..
(especially when it comes to my creative rules)
comic book industry..is precisly that, an industry and a business.
You produce what sells..
like many things..it takes awhile to build a new trend..
especially changes in the social world..

and yea..I like sailor moon. So I will defend it.
Kabate Odango Atama!!

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Different Opinion

infernal_angel88; Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 05:40

Hi. I sort of stumbled upon this article over a year after it was written, but I had a strong urge to comment, so here it is.

First of all, I believe that just being able to kick butt is no sense of portraying a strong female role model (but usually that’s a good start). Feminism to me, is being able to do what you want without having to stick to a following stereotype. And I actually believe that the comics that you mentioned such as Sailor moon and fruits basket actually have very good portrayals of women.

Sailor moon is a show that portrays different types of women - hidden behind a pretty bad action show. I don’t find there is anything wrong with being a homemaker, when that is what you enjoy. But it isn’t like sailor moon is saying that is the only way to live your life; sailor mercury who is very intelligent and hardworking, aims to become a doctor. The other sailor scouts who also have different personalities and ambitions for their future. Also, she is never told by tuxedo mask to fight anything, it has always been her choice to fight these battles that she decides are important to her. And so what if sailormoon needs to get rescued often, we all need help every now and then and sometimes it is tuxedo mask who saves her, but sometimes it’s her friends.

Fruits basket on the other hand, I find the character of tohru to be quite endearing. Although she isn’t the brightest of the bunch but I think tohru is a very strong character. She has faced so many hardships in her life, but she faces it all by her own strength. She gets multiple jobs, and at the beginning lives on her own so she doesn’t burden her grandfather after her mother’s death. Also I don’t think tohru’s interest is tailored to any of the men in the souma house, although she does the housework, but that is because it is actually her job since they let her stay free of charge. From my memory, her interest is not like any of the guys that like her (in the anime tohru appears to have no romantic interest in any of the guys, although she may find them charming), she’s just a helpful person to everyone. She helps with gardening mostly because she loves to cook, and she obviously is far from anyone who practices martial arts. Tohru is a character who knows her flaws and always tries to improve; actually being one of the more mature and wise characters, offering advice to many of the male and female characters that she encounters.

Although I agree that some shoujo manga are quite sexist, but some are not. It should also not be generalized that the only way to show strength is physical strength.


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Very late indeed, yet still

Joamette Gil; Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 15:30

Very late indeed, yet still very well argued. You make a very good point, and I'm personally glad you decided to share it with us.

Welcome to MP! :)

I think that in the midst of the struggle to prove that we can achieve as much or even more than any given man could, we women have lost sight of the fact that feminism is supposed to be about being true to ourselves in spite of stereotypes rather than fighting against them, tooth-and-nail, even when we happen to fit them. The way children are still being raised and indoctrinated doesn't exactly help the situation, but we still must remember that fitting a label isn't always bad. If you fit, you fit. What matters is why you fit--is it because you just happen to be that way and will be regardless, or is it because you've been encouraged your whole life to be this way? What makes any human being strong, man or woman, is the ability to survive and to stand up for what he or she believes in, whether his or her dreams consist of caring for offspring or changing the world.


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